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Sources: M's Washburn, Ibanez claimed on waivers
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Both Ibanez and Washburn were claimed on waivers Tuesday, according to major-league sources. The claiming teams are not yet known, but the Mariners have until 1:30 p.m. Thursday to work out a deal with those respective clubs.
Ibanez would be a perfect fit for the Tampa Bay Rays. The question is whether another American League team would allow him to slip to the Rays, who are reeling from injuries to left fielder Carl Crawford and third baseman Evan Longoria.
Players pass through waivers in the reverse order of the standings, with teams in the same league getting the first shot at a claim. To fall to the Rays, who own the American League's second-best record, Ibanez would need to get through every AL club but the Angels.
When the Red Sox claimed the Padres' Brian Giles, another left-handed hitting outfielder, they were motivated at least in part by a desire to block Giles from getting to the Rays, sources say. Giles invoked his no-trade clause to the Red Sox to stop a deal, ending any chance he will be moved in August.
The Rays' need for Ibanez grew after they lost Crawford on Saturday night to a tendon problem in his right hand that could force him to miss the rest of the season. The team then learned Monday that Longoria would be sidelined for three weeks with a fractured wrist.
Both those injuries occurred before Ibanez was placed on waivers; the Red Sox and other AL contenders would have been motivated to claim him to keep him away from the Rays. Ibanez is owed about $1.5 million in remaining salary; the Sox were willing to take on more than that with Giles.
Even if the Rays were awarded the claim on Ibanez, they would still have to negotiate a deal with the Mariners, who turned down several chances to move the veteran before the July 31 non-waiver deadline.
The M's also declined to trade Washburn prior to the deadline, even though the Yankees showed interest. The Yankees, however, declined to claim Washburn on waivers, sources say, believing that their hitting is a greater problem than their starting pitching.
Washburn, who turns 34 on Wednesday, is 5-12 with a 4.58 ERA this season, including 0-3 with a 5.09 ERA in August after a strong July. He is owed the remainder of his $9.85 million salary this season and $10.35 million next season.
Ibanez, 36, is batting .287 with a .351 on-base percentage, 18 home runs and 80 RBIs. He is owed the remainder of his $5.5 million salary, and is eligible for free agency at the end of the season.
Member Comments
oh Lou got burned out for awhile but he's here now with my favorite National L team...:) Raul is getting older he can't play at this level much longer..Get what u can for him now...Its time to rebuild...bye bye Beltre/Washburn/Silva/Lopez/Jojima/Bedard and rip u bum sexton...Maybe he'll stay as yanks batboy
Vashon688/15/2008 17:17:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Harry...your memory not so good...A roid left as a free agent-did not want to be in Seattle...Randy forced a trade playine lameduck pitcher...Junior wanted to go to Cincy -Safeco didn;t agree with him...Edgar retired Jay retired...what else am i missing?
Vashon688/15/2008 17:12:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
wow alot of **** **** sox on this site they no class but they are ass clowns last week they did,nt say **** this week they talk **** but that what **** sox nation is **** can you smell it i live in new england and is **** LIKE THER FANS so boston go get ****
sportnutt8/14/2008 15:40:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
I heard that the Cardinals might be one of the teams that claimed Washburn
Zachscards8/14/2008 14:11:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
what did this have to do with the mets
gonygiants108/14/2008 12:41:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Averc she is nothing but a yankee shill like the rest of them the yankees are the best I have to hear every day here in Jersey.
4time8/14/2008 11:35:00 AM(Report inappropriate content)
"Another funny thing, this was reported at 7:13PM yesterday (the 13th) which is 4:13 PDT. Raul played 3 hours later and went 4 for 5...... <br /><br />Bad source!!!!!!"<br /><br />He's a Mariner until traded. The waiver claim is just that: a claim. The "bad source" in this case is your understanding of the waiver process. There are, in all probability, literally dozens of players on waivers right now who are still playing with there current teams.
hefe3008/14/2008 11:01:00 AM(Report inappropriate content)
I heard the yanks offered the Mariners a pair of suzyn waldmans panties and Wilson Betemit for both players
4time8/14/2008 10:47:00 AM(Report inappropriate content)
Another funny thing, this was reported at 7:13PM yesterday (the 13th) which is 4:13 PDT. Raul played 3 hours later and went 4 for 5...... <br /><br />Bad source!!!!!!
chewey468/14/2008 10:35:00 AM(Report inappropriate content)
How come I don't see anyone else reporting this..... Is this for real? The M's have been bad for three of the last 4 seasons. <br /><br />As for the past seven seasons, in '01, 02 and 03 they had the most wins of any ball club!!! Thanks to 2001, but in 02 and 03 they won 93 games.... I think we miss Pat Gillick, but he wasn't happy here. <br /><br />And for Ichiro, he is the model lead off guy, get on base and score runs... Ricky Henderson when he was younger didn't have an incredible slugging either... And he has been one of the best lead off guys ever....
chewey468/14/2008 10:17:00 AM(Report inappropriate content)
Harry Kim<br /><br />Are you serious? You think trading Mark Langston for Randy Johnson, Brian Holman and Gene Fields, all Major Leauge pitchers, was a bad move? <br /><br />Danny Tartabull? You have got to be kidding.
gayorator8/13/2008 22:50:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Ken Rosenthal...bruning the midnight oil..tracking down those mystery teams???? HAHA. He is a puppet for the owners. They feed him more MIS-information than actual fact. Maybe Ken will find out the mystery teams tomorrow one hour after the deadline for the teams to consumate a deal has passed! Way to work Sport.
TW98/13/2008 21:25:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Hmm and what will the mariners get for these two ? R. Ibanez/J. Washburn Not a damn thing ... and u all know it ... this Mariners Management is horrible In havin a team period .... there is badblood in the Clubhouse U can see it on the Field..... Starting pitching is plain Horrible ....29-55 ? That is the worst ever I think Thats between 6 starters makin total 35,140,000 .... and thats not Including Dickeys Pay .... U can bet U will see another 5 to 10 years of losing with this Ownership an Management running this team .... Look at the past 7 years History Doesnt LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!
reaver758/13/2008 20:55:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Ibanez could bring some value to Seattle, but Washburn - at two million dollars per win - might be too expensive, even for the Yankees.
8/13/2008 20:42:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Oh BIG SCOOP KEN! You;ve had how many hours since running this story to ascertain the names of the teams making the claims and have zilch? Ooooh you are a real INSIDER! LOL. You are a Yankee loving toolbox Rosenthal. It must KILL youto see the Red Sox on the verge of overtaking the Devil-Dawgs.
TW98/13/2008 19:43:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
How about an update there Kenny?? Weasel your way into the offices and find out who took them.
UFgreat_FSUgarbage8/13/2008 19:06:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Harry -<br /><br />The Seattle Mariners are awful this year- not because Ichiro;'s slugging percentage- according to you - is fourth best on the team. Granted, it''s nice to have a high on base slugging percentage however, Ichiro's job is to get on base. He does not bat third, fourth or fifth. He bats first. He's a lead off hitter. He's having a bad year for his standards and he's still batting .311. He aslo has 39 SB's and he is 3rd with 159 hits in MLB. The Mariner's are awful because the players who bat behind hiim, Ibanez included, have not had success driving in players in scoring position on a consistent basis. Ichiro's doing his job and he is also a perennial gold glover. Ibanex is a C- minus outfielder who should bat 6th and maybe 5th on most teams. The mariner's pitching sucks this year too. Pitching, defense and timely hitting separates good teams from the bad teams. <br /><br />Slugging percentage is a compouunding influence on the Mariner's lack of success this year. It's has more to do with everytjhing else than slugging.<br />Ibanez should get traded. The Mariner's are not going to trade Ibanze due to salary concerns. He's owed about a 1.5 million dollars the rest of this year. They'll trade him if they can get some potetnial or solid prospects in return. He's a free agent after the end of this year. He understands it's business. He may even wish to resign with the Mariner's while in free agency during the off -season. It does not make sense to keep him when the Mariner's are playing to finish out the season, especially if there is an attractive prospect offered.
Shea698/13/2008 17:36:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
harry your a m.o.r.o.n. why should we keep old stars when we are in a lost year and ibanez is free agent anyway. Why not get what we can you dunce
tybud288/13/2008 17:24:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Ibanez is only valuable as a DH. With Manny Ramirez going to the Dodgers, Ibanez is now the worst defensive outfielder in the American League, and his defense is just one of the many reasons the Mariners are in sell mode rather than buy mode. They should at least keep him until the end of the season, though, so they can get draft picks in compensation for him leaving for free agency. <br /><br />Washburn, on the other hand, needs to be shown the door as soon as possible so he can go suck for someone besides the Mariners.
Kouvre8/13/2008 17:07:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
Danny Tartabull, kc then yankees. need i say more....i will.....mr. lincoln and mr. armstrong please stop getting rid of the good players on the team......and don't say you weren't here when some of these guys were traded because you have carried on the front office tradition of past front offices for seattle; you are doing the same thing as them and keeping seattle in the basement for whatever reason. hint, if the player is leading the team in slugging percentage don't get rid of him, keep him and get rid of someone who should have better stats but do not. a few years ago you had three decent shortstops and now all of them are gone and nothing to show for it......hello front office are you deaf...........???????????? come on..... maybe i'm sounding a little bit upset but really i'm just trying to express how frustrated the fans are about the wrong moves.....and they are so obvious....
harry_kim8/13/2008 17:00:00 PM(Report inappropriate content)
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