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Sources: Pads, Yanks had 'numerous' Peavy talks

by Ken Rosenthal

Ken Rosenthal has been the senior baseball writer for FOXSports.com since Aug. 2005. He appears weekly on the FSN Baseball Report and MLB on FOX.

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Updated: November 15, 2008, 8:10 AM EST
The Yankees' Brian Cashman and Padres' Kevin Towers discussed Padres right-hander Jake Peavy at the general managers' meetings earlier this month in Dana Point, Calif.

"Right now, I need to stay focused with National League clubs," Towers told Cashman. "If I'm not able to get close with any of them, I'll circle back to you."

Well, Towers is officially circling, and the Yankees remain interested in Peavy, despite their apparent plan to buy every top free-agent pitcher by the end of the weekend.

The teams already have had "numerous discussions" about Peavy, according to a major-league source.

A Peavy trade, however, would be more complicated for the Yankees than it would be for his preferred National League clubs, the Braves and Cubs. For starters, Peavy -- who holds a full no-trade clause -- might not want to play in New York.

And the Yankees, after trading five young pitchers in recent deals for Nick Swisher and Xavier Nady/Damaso Marte, might simply prefer to spend on free agents.

Ditto for the Angels, whose first priority is to re-sign first baseman Mark Teixeira. The Angels will pursue an elite starting pitcher if they fail to keep Teixeira, but their agenda rarely includes trading young talent.

So, the waiting game continues.

Towers, in comments to the San Diego Union-Tribune on Thursday, said he did not see "a potential deal" with either the Braves and Cubs, raising the possibility that he would open the process to the Yankees and Angels.

The Braves responded Friday by pulling out of the Peavy discussions.

The Cubs are still in but also are trying to re-sign right-hander Ryan Dempster, a move that could end their pursuit of Peavy.

Peavy continues to express a "strong preference" for the N.L., according to his agent, Barry Axelrod. To waive his no-trade clause for an A.L. club, the pitcher almost certainly would require a significant financial inducement, among other contractual goodies.

Before even reaching that point, the Yankees would need to satisfy the Padres, who would not accept a package from the Braves headed by shortstop Yunel Escobar, perhaps the best player they could receive in any trade.

The Angels might be an easier sell to Peavy — Padres manager Bud Black, when he was the Angels' pitching coach, commuted from his home in Rancho Santa Fe, Calif., north of San Diego, to the Angels' park in Anaheim.

But for Peavy, Angels vs. Yankees wouldn't be that simple.

"From a geographic perspective, the Angels probably would be more appealing," Axelrod said. "From other perspectives, they might be less appealing. Geography probably will be one of 20 factors."

Perhaps, in the end, Towers simply wants to wait out the Braves, figuring they might not sign any of their top free-agent targets — Lowe, Burnett and Dempster.

It's still only Nov. 15. This thing appears a long way from over.

The Angels' four-corners strategy

The Yankees made no secret of their offer to Sabathia. The Dodgers took a similarly aggressive approach with Manny Ramirez.

The Angels, on the other hand, have yet to extend a formal proposal to Teixeira, major-league sources say.

Their strategy appears to make sense.

Scott Boras, the agent for Ramirez as well as Teixeira, rejected and even disparaged the Dodgers' offer to Ramirez, saying he intended to field more "serious" proposals once the market opened.

The Dodgers have since withdrawn their offer, widely reported to be two years and $45 million, though they plan to continue discussions with Boras.

The situations with the two Los Angeles teams are different — the Dodgers wanted to show their fans that they indeed would make a sincere bid for Ramirez. The Angels, though, have given Boras nothing to reject, nothing to disparage, nothing to bring other clubs.

Their plan, according to another agent, might be to wait another 7 to 10 days, make Teixeira a knockout offer and give Boras a firm deadline for accepting it.

The Yankees did just that with Boras when they signed another of his free-agent clients, outfielder Johnny Damon, in Dec. 2005.

The Jays: Waiting on A.J.

The Yankees' stated intention to make Burnett an offer — combined with interest from the Orioles, Braves and possibly the Red Sox and other clubs — does not bode well for the Blue Jays' chances of keeping the right-hander.

"Realistically, we know teams will be able to afford more dollars than we're able to afford," Jays G.M. J.P. Ricciardi said.

"The biggest thing is, he's had success with us. He likes it here. How important is it for him to stay? (Roy) Halladay and (Vernon) Wells decided that Toronto was a place they wanted to stay.

"We know we won't be the highest bidder. But we offer things that maybe some other people don't."

Burnett enjoys a strong relationship with Halladay, Jays pitching coach Brad Arnsberg and the team's training staff. The expectations on him again would rise if he signed with another club.

One problem for the Jays: The last time they signed Burnett as a free agent, they awarded Halladay an extension just months later. They almost certainly would try to follow the same course if they kept Burnett, which ultimately could limit their final offer.

If the Jays lose Burnett?

"At that point, we may just re-evaluate where we're at," Ricciardi said. "The economy is not good. I don't know if we were going to be a player on some things."

Dempster, a native of Canada, would be an obvious target, but Ricciardi said, "We probably would have to blow him away to get him out of Chicago."

Setup men in demand

The free-agent market includes four top closers — Francisco Rodriguez, Brian Fuentes, Trevor Hoffman and Kerry Wood — but few quality setup men.

Which is why three highly regarded relievers — righty Juan Cruz and lefties Jeremy Affeldt and Joe Beimel — could be among the first free agents to sign new contracts.

The Indians are mulling whether to enter the closer market or perhaps try to lock up both Cruz and Affeldt.

The Giants, expected to be aggressive in their pursuit of setup help, could make a pre-emptive bid for Cruz.

The Phillies also like Cruz and intend to make one of their strengths — the bullpen — even stronger. The departure of Tom Gordon as a free agent will create an opening.

Affeldt and Beimel, meanwhile, are certain to draw attention from the Cardinals, who could seek to add two lefty relievers.

Around the horn

The Cubs' interest in free-agent left-hander Randy Johnson isn't difficult to explain: Johnson is 11-0 with a 1.85 ERA in 12 career starts against the Cubs, 3-0 with a 1.00 ERA in four career starts at Wrigley Field. The likelihood that Johnson will sign only a one-year contract adds to his appeal...

The Dodgers pursued a trade for shortstop Orlando Cabrera during the season, and could renew its interest in Cabrera if they lose Rafael Furcal as a free agent. Blake DeWitt could move back from second to third base if Casey Blake departs as a free agent. Second baseman Orlando Hudson, targeted by numerous clubs, would be a good fit – but the Dodgers need to spend in too many other areas ...

Rival clubs believe the White Sox would trade closer Bobby Jenks, but the glut of free-agent closers — combined with concerns over Jenks' weight, makeup, rising salaries and declining strikeout rates — will reduce the demand. Jenks was 30-for-34 in save opportunities with a career-best 2.63 ERA last season, but his strikeouts per nine innings have declined from 10.34 to 7.75 to 5.55 in his three full major-league seasons...

The Yankees' interest in Teixeira diminished after they acquired Nick Swisher but could revive if they fail to land the free-agent starting pitchers they desire — and if Teixeira is willing to accept a four- or five-year contract with a high average salary. Teixeira said during the season that he wanted a 10-year deal...

Few scouts believe that Jeff Marquez will turn into another Gavin Floyd for the White Sox, but some view Marquez as a potential No. 4 starter. Jhonny Nunez, whom the Sox acquired along with Marquez in the Swisher deal, could develop into a quality bullpen piece for a championship club, one scout said.

And finally, how did Indians left-hander Cliff Lee celebrate winning the American League Cy Young Award? By working out for 2 1/2 hours, according to his agent, Darek Braunecker. Lee got itchy to hit the gym after conducting his media interviews, Braunecker said. It's that type of work ethic that separates ordinary pitchers from Cy Young winners.

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the article was written on 11/15...no one has been talking about this for two weeks...Yankees aren't pushing the Peavy trade and it is my understanding that Peavy would consider a trade to the Yankees...

highlander64highlander64
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Jake Peavy doesnt want to go to the Yankees, and since he has a limited-trade clause, Peavy decides where he goes. Yankees are not one of the six teams Peavy is willing to be traded to, so why is this still being talked about...

AChacko689AChacko689
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Hey cheap ass Padres I am fan that wants to be traded. Pretty soon we will be able to sell Petco part to the condo developers as well because there won't be any fans left!@

DodgersSpankersDodgersSpankers
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The Padres will not get as much from the Yankees as the Braves offered.<br />I'm glad we didn't land Peavy. If the Yankees should really get him, I'm not sure it will work out well for them. If I were the Yankees I would rather get CC and AJ.<br />Then add another big bat and they are the team to beat. With all the money they have to spend, I don't see any team that can match up with them.<br />Yes, the games have to be played, but if they add that much talent, there is no way another team can keep up with them.<br />Sad to see, but thats they way it is.

GoBraves1074734GoBraves1074734
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Yankees trade melky,kennedy,and couple pitchers to san diego for peavy.But just know peavy is a fly ball pitcher and san diego is a pitchers ballpark.I dont know about the new yankee stadium.GOOD LUCK YANKEES WIN #27.

JoeycapecodJoeycapecod
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I have been a Yankee fan since I was a small child. Every kid on the play ground wanted to be Mickey Mantle or Roger Maris. I get tired of people bashing New York. More tradition than any 3 or 4 other clubs put together.So what if they have more revenue? Would you work for free? Let's face facts, MONEY makes the world go round.

blue_daddyblue_daddy
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I know the yankees will be able to outspend most if not all teams, but American Leaguers need to be wearry. If the yankees end up picking up 3 new quality pitchers (thay already have one with Wang), they could have one of the most dominating rotations. Pitching is everything, look at the Rays. Some teams are either going to have to send these marquee guys a blank check, or the 2009 yankees will be devastating.

Yankeeswc27Yankeeswc27
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If money had anything to do with winning championships, the Yankees would win every year, remember the yankees have and has had the biggest payroll in baseball, but has not won a championship in some time. You still have to play the game. So wake-up yankee haters that think the Yankees are buying championships.

fherrrfherrr
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I can't understand smoe baseball fans who keep making comment that the Yankees are buying the world series. One must remember that the Yankees have the highest salary in baseball and have not won a championship in many year. No matter how much money you spend, you still have to play the game. Money alone does not win chapionships, if it was just money, the Yankees would win every year.

fherrrfherrr
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fisherboys - NYC doesn't pay lots to live eat and etc. Tell that to the folks in Brooklyn, Bronx, etc.<br /><br />A Loan from a bank is needed to go out to a ball game.

yankeesrule4everyankeesrule4ever
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I doubt Peavy would get traded. The Padres are asking for the moon. The Braves offer was a good one and yet the Padres didn't take it. Instead wanted even more added onto the deal.

yankeesrule4everyankeesrule4ever
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tell your girlfriend to go easy on the hot dogs and you should be ok. i live in nyc (greatest city in the world) pay lots of money to live eat ect... stop[ feeling sorry for yourself and the world and man up.

fisherboysfisherboys
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add peavy wong back joba we have the pennant

fisherboysfisherboys
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I will always be a Yankee hater, that goes for the Mets to.

turkingtonturkington
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The Yankees of the 50s and 60s were truly great teams. Now, it is a matter of outspending the other 29, trying to buy a World Series. What fun is that?

turkingtonturkington
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The farm system is still the best way. The BSox are almost as bad as the Yankees.

turkingtonturkington
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My team is the Rays. they made it to the series, with no big $$$$$free agents.

turkingtonturkington
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****. When was the last time your team won. Are you a recent Sox fan. No team can win every year. Don't fault one team who draws 4 million a year in fans that pays the entire payroll. All the other revenue is profit. It's nice to hate the rich team but it sucks to be a poor team who looses and cries.

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let the Yanks sign Peavey, Manny, Furcal, all of them. They still will lose, goes to show there big $$$$$ won't work. Get your farm system ontrack.

turkingtonturkington
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One scout told me that Cole Hamels is a good pitcher. Another told me that Manny can hit. Get the Point! One scout my ass

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