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Q&A: Spurs are in tough spot with Ginobili

by Charley Rosen

Charley Rosen is FOXSports.com's NBA analyst and author of 15 books about hoops, the current ones being The First Tip-Off: The Incredible Story of the Birth of the NBA and No Blood, No Foul.

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Updated: August 31, 2008, 2:26 PM EDT
Should the Spurs try to make a major trade? Being that Bruce Bowen is up there in age and obviously Tim Duncan isn't getting younger, it seems to me that TD needs to be surrounded with some younger players. I would try to move Manu Ginobili before he gets hurt again. Wouldn't packaging Ginobili with Bowen bring the Spurs a good return? — Kris, San Antonio

It's true that the Spurs are an aging ball club. Their list of overly-seasoned veterans include Bowen (37), Michael Finley (35), Kurt Thomas (36), Fabricio Oberto (33), Jacque Vaughn (33) and TD is 32! The plan is to replace Bowen with Ime Udoka, who's still at least a year away from being a consistent defender, but given his advanced years, it's hard to imagine any other team wanting to deal for BB.

Also, given that Duncan and Tony Parker are untouchable, there's no one else on their roster who could command a quality player in return.

It's also true that the full-speed-ahead style of the 31-year-old Ginobili often leads to stints on the injured list — during his NBA career he's missed an average of nearly 11 games per season. Even so, he remains the primary motor of the Spurs offense — simply because he can go get the ball while the ball has to come to Duncan. Make no mistake about Ginobili's skill level — he's a bona fide super star. So, then, for whom could Ginobili be traded? Who could possibly duplicate what he does for San Antonio?

Obviously, guys like LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant are out of the question. So is Paul Pierce, who's rapidly approaching the 32nd anniversary of his birth. Perhaps someone like Gilbert Arenas, Baron Davis, Carmelo Anthony and Vince Carter could be had — but none of these guys fit Pop's unselfish game plan.

Would the Kings be willing to deal Kevin Martin (25)? Would Pop want anything to do with Tracy McGrady (29)?

Probably not.

Nor would the likes of Luol Deng (23), Gerald Wallace (26), or Rip Hamilton (30) be considered without additional inducements.

Indeed, the only semi-available player I'd trade Ginobili for would be Joe Johnson (27). Failing this, the Spurs would be advised to stand pat, hope that their elder statesmen can squeeze out another quality season, that Ginobili's rehab will be successful and that Roger Mason is a big surprise.

Moreover, having most recently won championships in 2003, 2005 and 2007, hopefully the Spurs should be the odds-on favorites to win again in 2009.

Hi, Charley. You are my favorite writer on the Internet. I'd very much like to read your scouting report of yourself as a player and as a coach. Thank you. — Volkan Akin, Istanbul, Turkey

Thanks for your kind words.

As a collegiate player at Hunter College in New York, I was mostly a pivot man who scored with a right-handed half-hook-half-jump-hook, a strong baseline drive (from the left box) and a turnaround jumper over my left shoulder. If I'd been forced to feed myself with only my left hand I would have starved to death — going left, my only move was to suddenly turn my right shoulder into my defender and, hoping I wasn't called for charging, unleash a fairly accurate bank-shot. I was also a very good mid-range shooter (15-18 feet), so zones never really bothered me. In my junior year I averaged over 24 ppg.

Even though I had bad hands and couldn't jump, I was big and strong enough to grab 16 rebounds per game in my senior season.

I was never required to either pass or set screens — aspects of my game that didn't blossom until well after I graduated. I could also run the court surprisingly well for my size — 6-foot-9, 230 pounds — but my coach was a station-to-station guy and our ball handlers weren't very effective on the run.

My defense was awful, and I was usually kept well hidden in the back of a 1-3-1 zone.

If I wasn't a terrific technician as a coach (especially on the defensive end), my strengths were my ability to relate with my players, to discern the strengths and weaknesses of players, to work hands-on with young big men, to effectively read the progress of ball games and to make in-game adjustments. In addition, my quirky sense of humor and my perpetual passion for the game also served me in good stead — although my passion too easily turned to rage against what I deemed to be the incompetence of too many refs.

All in all, I was probably a much better coach than I was a player.

I've played in several AAU summer tournaments and was dismayed to discover that they are nothing but glorified street games. What is particularly upsetting is the obvious waste of coaching time and effort that should have focused on teaching the players how to move without the ball, play solid defense and so on.

Where do you see the state of basketball in the USA 10 years from now? — Roy, Chicago

More uptempo offense. More gambling, pressing defense with more defenders looking for steals and blocked shots and consequently biting at fakes. More dunks. More 3-point attempts. Fewer "pure" point guards. Fewer well-schooled pivot men. More of a disregard/ignorance of fundamentals. An increase in the glorification of me-first scorers. The devolution of NBA action into the kind of madcap play you witnessed in AAU competition.

In other words, the uglification of a beautiful game.

Do you think the NBA should expand to Europe to prevent Euroleague teams from pirating NBA players? — Greg, Philippines

David Stern has repeatedly claimed that the NBA will never expand into Europe — and he's probably right. The huge travel budgets would bankrupt any stateside franchise that would be on the bubble — and there are several of these at the present time. The time differences would also preclude live telecasts back here, which would drastically curtail the interest of both viewers and commercial sponsors. Also, having a resident NBA team in Italy, Spain, France, etc., would radically diminish interest in the local teams, players and leagues. Accordingly, most countries would be hesitant to accept an NBA franchise. And teams comprised mostly of native-born players would be unable to compete with American-born players on even terms over the long NBA season.

The biggest reason why so many second-level players are opting for Europe is the sagging state of the American economy. Having NBA teams situated overseas will do nothing to rectify this situation.

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I am dumbfounded in learning about your academic credentials. Why, oh why, would a man with the kind of intelligence needed to obtain a Master's degree in Medieval Literature and to go as far as you have toward earning a Ph.D. do something as meaningless as spending your life writing about basketball? Sportswriters, announcers, etc, are pathetically irrelevant, but can be excused if what they're doing is all they are capable of doing. To be fair, you certainly are by far the best basketball writer in the business — and the most analytical. Do you really think you are doing something important? — John Miller, Jakarta, Indonesia

Let's be realistic here. What else might I have done with my degrees and my almost-degrees? Little except to teach on a college level — which I did for four years. However, my teaching experience was profoundly unsatisfying. I saw too many veteran teachers who had been teaching the same year 20 times. I saw too few students who were really interested in learning. And I saw very little relevance in what I was teaching to the "real" world.

Not that I'm anti-intellectual. Not by any means. I read at least two books a week — mostly history and biographies, both literary and political. But there's life out there beyond the book covers and beyond the academic enclaves.

For me, every basketball game is a true-life drama that, among other things, reveals how individuals (players, coaches, refs, announcers and writers) react to stressful situations. The games reveal every aspect of the participants' character, both strengths and flaws.

The appeal also includes the humanity, the passion, the skills, and the suspense — all being played out without a script.

Of even greater interest to me, the games we play and watch reveal critical aspects of our culture: How easily most of us are influenced by glitz rather than by substance.

If I can, in any way, help people to view their worlds with a bit more discernment, while at the same time helping them to see beauty and grace in actions they might not have previously noticed, then yes, I believe that what I'm doing is not only relevant but necessary — moreso today than ever before.

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SpurfectionistSpurfectionist
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A person said the spurs should be over hauled 2 years ago. They won the championship then. This year people are forgetting that if it wasn't for a blatently missed call by referees who have it in for the spurs because of Duncan. The series could have gone either way. If spurs would have lost in the 1st or 2nd round I may agree with making some changes, but they beat two elite teams in the suns and hornets to get there and had the lakers shaking. I wish barry would have had the respect to be called for a foul.

rebar33rebar33
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most of those guys play about 6 mins a game you tools! Well if manu was not hurt would you be sayin this propaganda? Because the healthy spurs would have beat LA.Did we all forget that Spurs went to the west finals in the toughest division in years the WEST!<br />You dont know ****! 4 rings g.a.y. rods

EAGLESownNFCEAGLESownNFC
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Sorry I ment to say quit!

brownsuga08brownsuga08
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bassda1.... You truely need to quite with Pierce being "the best in the league" because he not. Him carring KG, what a freakin joke. They won as a team and they contributed as a team. Once again you have things all twisted!!

brownsuga08brownsuga08
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charley - nice article.<br /><br />khazte71 - like TheJ pointed out to you, the spurs won the title 2 years ago, and were close again last year, as cisco explained. <br />the spurs are not old. i dont really agree with all the attention their age gets. BB is still productive and gets his job done, playing D and hitting open 3's. 8 out of 10 25 year olds cant do that.

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Charlie Rosen has played and coached and understands winning basketball....That is why his commentary is usually "on the money".............the Spurs have a system where retooling is possible yearly because of the type of players needed for Pop's system.....thus, no huge trade is needed, just a little luck and good health at the right time....trading Ginobili would make no sense unless he was one of the big 5 in the league....with the big 3 healthy, the Spurs will be there again in 06/2009 going for #5.

denlippy7denlippy7
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The spurs were a healthy ginobili and a few should-have-been 'close out moments' away from beating the lakers and advancing to the nba finals. Sure they are the oldest team in the league and they are endeavouring to get younger but don't count them out just yet. As the saying goes; if it aint broke, dont fix it. The spurs are certainly not broke yet.

cisco83cisco83
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Khazte71 - Two years ago the Spurs were too busy winning a championship to overhaul their team. If they had listened to you they wouldn't have won that championship. I guess that's why you were never offered a GM position in the NBA.

TheJTheJ
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Charlie.. I have seen alot of sportswriter come and go and you are my favorite. I am not really an NBA fan (mostly for reasons that you also see) but I find myself reading every story you have on here. You come accross as an honest, educated, and sincere person and I can see why you would do well in a business that requires personal relationships.

evilroot73evilroot73
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See ya there in 13. Good luck Steve...BTW, seems you are dating a hottie on the HOT SEXY


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The Spurs should have been overhauled 2 seasons ago. They are the oldest team in the NBA

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