I have been a Packers fan all my life. I said this spring the Pack wont win 8 games with Rodgers,,Today against minn was a good, very good show of why! A=R got rattled with all the banging he took! He held the ball way too long when the early slants were open, and tightend was none existant! Thos short under routes will kill a blizzing team, but you have to hit them. Pack will miss playoffs, NJ and no. 4 will probably make it! Having a balanced team as NYJ have saves the forced throws from happening. Pack was wowfully quick to sign a Big $ contract on AR. If you graded TT on management, he probably is only a C, C+ GM

meader99, you're absolutely right, Farve wasn't THE reason. But certainly, he was a key reason. Doesn't the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" rule apply? The "fix" has now gone from 8-1 now to 4-5 ...

You may well be right, delagrossa. IMHO, best thing that could have happened to the Jets is what has happened - realizing Favre can't do it alone. One universal truth for his career - the mistakes come when he tries to do too much. But my gripe is with the "experts" like Schein who turn personal dislike of Farve into supposed analysis. The Giants loss in the championship game last year is the perfect example. It takes two seconds to spout out that Farve threw the OT interception. But any thoughtful analysis on the game would quickly show (1) the Packers had no running game, something like 10 yards total; the Packers defense stopped no one; there were no coaching adjustments at all (i.e staying in single coverage v. Burress). The only reason the Packers were in the game was the big plays by Farve. Then the fateful throw at the end, and it's ALL Farve's fault. Didn't the likes of Brady and Romo also lose to the Giants?

Oh that's right. I keep forgetting that I'm dealing with people that give all the credit of the 13-3 season to Favre and Favre alone. Nevermind.

Look at all the great things FOXSPORT says about us. And they'll keep you up to date whenever that washed up #4 makes a mistake. Just to prove our point that we did it my way!! I mean the best way for the team. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Forget the wins/losses, look at those great stats!! Yeah, we're building for the future. That's the party line.<br /><br />What? You say the Falcons are rebuilding? Oh, don't mention that. Our statistics are way better. We're just unlucky. Bad breaks.

Gray<br /><br />Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. You don't need a great QB to win the big one. You need a good team and a QB that doesn't turn the ball over. Sounds like the Packers for the next several years.

delagrossa<br /><br />You are going to see just how Favre does against the Jets in a couple weeks. I am guessing he is going to add to his number of pick 6's. How many games have the Jets won DESPITE Favre and not because of Favre? Once again, people want to make their case over just this season. The Favre jock sniffers actually believe he is the reason the Packers won the Super Bowl. Evidently they forget about Reggie White, the defense and the fact that a kick returner was MVP of not only the Super Bowl, but of the whole postseason.<br />This whole pipe dream of Favre taking a 4-12 team over and making it successful is ludicrous. The Jets had good draft picks and brought in several notable free agents, but once again Favre gets all the credit. Everyone knows how quickly season to season can spawn different results. Schedule and injuries play a bigger part than just Rodgers vs. Favre. Watching every Packer game this year, I don't know of 1 game that would have turned out any different if Favre was a Packer. Compare last year all you want, bottom line is would the Packers have more wins this year with Favre? I think not.

Oh and I would like to see how Favre would do against the Titans. HA. That would be a sight to see. over/under 6 interceptions in that one?

Hey J-E-T-S fan, if you guys are lucky enough to make the playoffs, wait and see how Favre does then. Can't wait to see his three second half picks in whatever blowout you guys are on the wrong end of in your first playoff game.

What is your 40 time these days Elliot?

I think the main question is could Favre have given Green Bay one last gasp based on last years run.<br /><br />Of course they are trying for the future.<br /><br />However they screwed up in a very average NFL especially that division Green Bay may have had a run this year with favre.<br /><br />Rodgers has the recievers, who has he really beaten? I don't get or watch Green bay games but from what I have seen zilch. The defense has won a game or 2.<br /><br />When you have a shot a Super Bowl and they were a running game away last year you give it your best shot the next this isn't doing that! This wasn't Steve Young waiting for Joe Montana!<br /><br />Favres progressing in a tough division setback last week it wouldn't shock me to see the Jets in the Final 4! and I aint a Jets fan......<br /><br />I wouldn't mind seeing him win the whole D A M N Thing I would laugh so hard!

Hey Elliott, I asked Schein this but haven't heard back, so maybe you know. When Rodgers dressed up in a civil war uniform for the trip on the team plane earlier this year was he Union or Confederate? Well, whatever. Stabler in a hot tub full of cheerleaders he ain't!

A few more comments, if I may. "Should" have beaten the Titans, you say. Are you kidding? The good teams get that DONE, don't they? I appreciate the Titans are 8-0, but let's remember a few things too. Thet Titans were ripe for the taking in that game. First off, by the sheer numbers game - they going to lose sooner or later. Second, they were coming off a short week. Third, the Titans were coming off a brutally physical game. Fourth, the Packers were coming off a BYE!!! And still the Packers couldn't get it done. Ryan hasn't been so hot. Maybe the absence of Farve has something to do with that, as defenses can refocus to stopping the run.

The steps some of you supposed experts go to to slice and dice to support a pre-conceived agenda is sometimes amaing. The simple answer: 7-1 last year under Farve at this point, just 4-4 under Rodgers. Will Farve's statistics match up this year with Rodgers. I would think probably not (though he's doing remarkably close). It's Farve, remember, who went to the new system, with new teammates, in a new conference, etc. Rodgers has had three years to adjust, maybe you could give Farve more than a few games. Peyton Manning is having an off year for him. Rodgers has beeter statistics. Are you going to say Rodgers is better than Manning? In the end, there's one statistic that really matters, rights? Wins. New team and all, Farve has taken a 1-7 team last year to 5-3 this year. Rodgers has taken a 7-1 team to 4-4. If Rodgers is better, how can that be? By the way, if you're going to argue something, at least have the courage of your conviction. Rodgers "may" be the best bet. Way to waffle.

I dont know why any of you trippen over this, it was about time this happened and if it didnt happen this year the switch woulda happened next year, and you think they made rodgers one of the highest paid quarterbacks on a whim?? I dont think so I'm betting the aging corners have something to do with it

gray<br /><br />This move was done for the success of the future of the Packers. If Green Bay doesn't make the playoffs this year and people deem Rodgers a failure, then they are fools. Frankly, Green Bay probably will win the division. Then what? All Green Bay has to do is win one Super Bowl with Rodgers at the helm and that would qualify Rodgers as doing just as much as Favre ever did. Records are made and records are broken, but the game is played for Championships. Doesn't much matter if Rodgers plays 15 years or 10 as long as he produces as many or more Super Bowls than Favre.

Yeah, I'll bet he'll never throw as many interceptions. Maybe he won't be a drama queen when the time comes to retire.

If I may make my opinion.<br /><br />Though I didn't like the way the management handled the Favre situation. At the very least they had a capable if untested QB at the helm. And with one half of a season over, I am damn grateful to have A-Rod take over the reins.<br /><br />Sure I would have loved to see Favre play in his more familiar environs, but what's done is done. Rodgers is now the Pack's QB of the future.<br /><br />It is worth telling that A-Rod has had less INT's than Favre. Granted the Pack's-4 record is a variety of things. Primarily problems at stopping the running game and not capatilizing in the redzone. But overall, Rodgers has proven he belongs in the league.<br /><br />Had Favre come back to the Pack Rodgers may have very well pulled a Hasselbeck and gone for greener pastures. We'd then be stuck with two rookie's at the helm.<br /><br />Bottom line, I wish Favre the best in NY. However, I know who the QB is in GB, and it's the guy with the #12 jersey.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.