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They've played he raised his first Sprint Cup Series -- way back in 1992. And has raced in each of NASCAR's top three series. However his most successful stop was on the dirt tracks lady won the world of outlaws sprint car title in 1995. He returned to the cup series full time in 2000 running for Bill Davis racing. His career best finishing cop is bird. He's done that three times most recently in Talladega last fall for his current owner Tommy Baldwin. When he has found Victory Lane once in the Nationwide Series. In 2006. He won the fall race at Charlotte heading into this season -- he found himself needing to race his way into the Daytona 500. Which she did by finishing twelfth in the second Gatorade duel. Thank when he joins us here in the hub and Dave and I were comparing the jokes he led the Daytona 500 for two days. He let the Daytona 500 longer than anybody else but the average speed was not good economic growth commitment that they've seriously though is or side to all the exposure and publicity that you guys got I mean. We saw your race car during the red flag period Tommy Baldwin was interviewed -- covered it was interviewed -- upside to that. Why haven't I haven't seen the tape or anything but sure there was you know we had a college bargain outlet on the car for the for the week at Daytona for the for the whole time and and they're coming back at Phoenix. So that of that -- and that was it right there and and then hopefully. Down there a little more here and there -- they've been in the sport you know there and -- all the time and very good. So yeah I can't hurt you know I heard about all the the Twitter stuff you know out of but it still hasn't convinced media jump in there yet. He didn't of notre daughters will get to that in a minute there. You went to Daytona. With the pressure of and had nothing new to you and fortunately that with the pressure of having to qualify. Or race your way in. Because Tommy ball when your -- made an alliance was Stewart Haas. And those points essentially we're given a Danica Patrick I would like to go and race that big you know that you have that kind of pressure that it doesn't do you. Is unattainable thing do you or do you just go to -- -- raced my way it. Well that's what you got to do go say you know I know I think I know we've got this team to do the cars to do it so. Yeah it's it didn't seem like an issue but anything can happen in. And now when we didn't qualify on speed the first weekend then then you have to do on Thursday you know anything to be to be leading the race had -- bad happens flat tire -- anything on Thursday so. That was and how we want to do it but we've we still had a good day Thursday if you went all find. And now Kenny Wallace didn't make it I mean that's the other side yet he had trouble and did you have a shot to make it -- in the race so yeah you didn't wanna do that but. That's that's the situation were in and Tommy made the best call for the whole team. -- it's going to be better force in the long run and I knew that I was you know all 42 so. Yet we just had -- got to make it and we need to make these all the next four races and see where we stack up. They finished fifteenth you've got all he's coming back for Phoenix and hopefully -- on the road but. Also your daughter Emma said on Twitter dead center -- had one last night it would have. In light happy if I would've won it would have been like Happy Gilmore winning the masters. -- I said that -- I -- didn't -- I did say that our radio show some. I was I was two hour signal back straightaway had lots of things going through my head home. You know I sit there and looked at in this like that there's the odds of that happening I could win the powerball and have better -- right the -- -- our role and so quite that kinda believe there is but it could have rain that would have been fine with you. Oh yes it would but -- run with anybody -- a race I thought about that -- wanna I wanna win this where we're at yet and we does what it's tough to. There was a weird situation. And that in with the Clinton was the. Well all things considered a great performers by by your race team you go to Phoenix now. What are your thoughts about Phoenix. In a particular we've got new pavement a little bit different configuration to that we unique racetrack. I was impressed by Phoenix last year really you know we went in there they tested out there I was a part of the test but everybody have a vital they were. You know a little pessimistic what was gonna happen but it turned out to be great race the track widened out they had a nice tire for the whole thing so. I assume it's going to be a really good race again we. We've got to nitrate were going out for for -- to remind myself and -- got some they're both really nice course expect to run gonna have a good day again. Are we saw your daughter M on Twitter your son Brian his race racing career is really starting to progress. Talk about his program this year. Hit. It's exciting for everybody. We've got some -- in races for him six or seven out of my -- in my cars and and six nationwide races -- we've always felt whenever everybody's pumped about it. We got seal wrap on board who's been friends for years so now. Tommy Baldwin Al-Maliki everybody's help and out. And some some some other buddies of mine and everybody's thrown in there and try to get Brian good shot and he's he's really run well bum.