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Don't expect Billy Wagner to -- -- giveaway. With the Mets simply dumping the money left on his contract. Wagner have actual trade value this winter. If he's healthy he's eight million dollar club option will not be outrageous money grow closer on a one year deal. Now. Even if the option is declined. -- can be offered arbitration by his team and that team get too high draft picks if you leave as a free agent. Wagner then it would not simply be a six week rental. Could be much more. Holidays resurgence with the Cardinals on out of -- is boosting his free agent value. One GM however thinks Jason Bay is still a comparable player on the open market. Holiday is better defensively sixteen months younger he is more of a breaking ball hitter while -- has more of a fastball hitter. The big question is how each of these players will age. At this point it's impossible to say. Have yet to put big name veterans such as Trevor Hoffman and Mike Cameron on trade waivers. But now that the team is out of contention why not. General manager Doug Melvin seems disinclined to makes it -- knowing the return might not be that significant. But Hoffman in. Particular would be attractive. The Rockies have already discussed internally. Other Brewers such as Craig Counsell Jason Kendall and Braden Looper could have value as well. Earlier this season there was talk to accomplish starting pitchers in sheets and Mark Mulder might help teams in the second half. And she is coming off elbow surgery has decided that the risk of a setback was greater -- the reward of an accelerated return. He should be healthy for next season. Mulder meanwhile pitched only twelve and two thirds innings the past few years. He has been working with his old pitching coach Rick Peterson. It's this season.