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However what I'm ready Barack Lee Trevino was not only one of golf's greatest players. He was also -- game's most colorful players were pleased we joined by the man they call. From merry max and later you're sort of a pioneer in golf not only were you one of the best players out there but. They're also one of the first showman on the course how this went golfing community. -- I think it it played okay coming -- to merit with with actually go to the the first one it was a showman but. They didn't have a the galleries and naturally that that we had you know when I started plan. But I actually. You know while people got to the point three thing you know you can actually play this game played for a living and have fun doing it and that's what you don't have debate these guys are walking around today and it looked like it. It's it's it's hard work you know -- -- and -- you do not many people in this world are happier. Wishing that they could do that played out and make all that money I mean when he got out -- order. During your career on the PGA tour you won 29 events including six majors which Wayne stands out of the only one that stands out to tell you the truth love of the two British opens one. But actually winning the of the of the the US open in 71 when -- beat Jack Nicklaus -- player. You know it all of Canada played from 1967 in 1971. I did pretty good but I didn't with a -- longer not united -- I was really that good and but it went up beat Jack in the playoffs if it actually. And by the way that it was a turning point for me. Finally that you know I may be better than night. And for me to be the greatest player ever had been hit or US open and eighteen hole playoff. I had to be pretty good show and I might complement the when -- when outside you just mentioned Jack Nicklaus back in the seventies you -- had quite a rival. What do you remember most from your battles with the gold there. Well I always the only time we were battled really was in major championships. Jack prepared for major championships. I was the best driver on two. And to win major championships you have to drive the ball straight that's one of the reasons and it went -- there was no emphasis on driving the ball in the dust. There's emphasis on grabbing the ball the British Open the PGA in the USO. And -- no cost that you just bombed. India and that was it and that I think that one of the reasons that that -- that -- went to the only time that I brigade -- any problem -- actually in the in the majors. Tiger Woods only four wins shy of necklaces record of eighteen career major championships. If tiger passes -- does that make tiger the greatest golfer of all time. If if if if if when tiger wins nineteen majors. He's the greatest about that no question I know he's very good but I don't know how good everybody is around people. That's the other thing too you understand what I'm -- and and you have to evaluate that also. But in my opinion it's about majors. In and I think it when tiger and tiger's going to keep playing until he gets and I don't think there's any question in my mind that tiger not going to reach ninety. I think I think you'll get there eventually providing his knee holds up. I'm not sure how many golf fans are aware of this but for years you suffer with -- back problems but now you're painfully. -- about that. Well we have a new procedure in this is what this is what I was talking to to everyone about today and and and I didn't want to you know I'm kind of I had this done and and I wandered in and in the -- to do what it did for me and I just wanted to get the word that possibly could have someone. But with we have a procedure an -- called the X pops racer. And an end -- in and what it did for me was just it was just unbelievable UCL headlong bush finals the most. And Lamar finals the most that you lose space in your lower back in the nerves have no place to ago. In every -- you make a sudden move where you swing a golf club you get -- not only do you get spasms but yet paying down your right leg numbness of the coach. And and there's things out there that can be done but I didn't want to lose any of the rotation. So my doctor. Found. This procedure. -- call X stuff breaks right to have them put in an 4. Here it is 9 I've never had I've not had a pain or spasm in my back and almost five years is just phenomenal. Well we appreciate -- being with us and probably latest golf news scores and videos. We should keep it logged off the foxsports.com. Golf home page are ready Sparage thanks to look at it.