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Spent a lot of time talking about Lance Armstrong who was stripped of his Olympic Medal and Evan Porter -- titles. The governing body is used -- and their CEO is Travis tiger who made that decision and he joins us now. Why the decision now Travis. The evidence that we received over the last saw a few months what it is overwhelming. Problem on totally that. Players -- on the other participants on the US Postal Service. Opening calm all pro cycling team participated and felt very professional wise and sophisticated doping program all blame -- To win so you know we're really under our. Our obligation on behalf of clean athletes and then -- -- at every level. I want to compete with our company used -- -- performance enhancing drugs. We had an obligation to initiate the process. And battle probably go. Process and to do -- -- -- today allow independent judges. Baltimore make -- decision whether that evidence to prove doping or not and yesterday Pollard can't try and chose. Not a contest that that's now element and doctors. -- receive lifetime bans further participation and that doping conspiracy. -- -- -- It is doctors that way with the team Obama tell it Ferrari. And I doctor Del Mar our last month and also banned for life. For their participation. As well on the US postal our pro cycling team. -- conspiracy. If Lance had decided to continue to fight the will would you done. We you know we frankly we were we we have our. Welcome that opportunity if every athlete to right putt within our system and we would have had an open. Our legal process where every piece of evidence bit by bit. We spot people have been presented an open court. -- -- arbitration process and -- and employers would have had the opportunity to cross examine it to confront that. Argued that it doesn't reliable or didn't do what we. Believe ten and are confident been approved at that point the judges would have made the decision about that are not not you sought -- but but the independent judges. But do you think that he was afraid of getting in front of -- court. Yeah I think it's hard to say but you know I I think that candidate and kept them. The better -- now for them system. -- walk away on bombing in terms -- you know I want to go down by the with no basis about a month or process or. I was taught her personal vendetta at all these things that you've never kept calm and I think it would have been much stopper. All of that evidence -- -- you know. Week three week period of time. Underwrote been presented. On the stand. So you know we will be providing help well reasoned decision based all that evidence to the international federation and the world anti doping agencies so I think calm and as the weeks to calm. -- -- you know about will be called repealed it and then they perform obviously not live testimony given that he chose not to contested. The offense will be made available. When we were part of a reasoned decision and and improperly the other that's. Com network support in other conclusion that we can do. Even though you know again he's he's just not -- that evidence and walked away from that so if you're happy are presented. Thought through between the appeal process to water and international federation. You we respect Lance Armstrong. You know our -- I think I think it -- there was about culture pomp and the sport and that would really all. The point at all costs quarter takeover odds -- I think he did what a lot of other athletes stated that -- Com you know a number of the alum all we confronted them well clearly evident to resolve. Palm important -- -- Poland and sat out whether -- -- projectors. Everything that went on and here's how we did it and pursue was involved in there's not a taught us to beat the -- and and and they help him make that about about what they were. There were put in to do and the decision that they were forced Emeka I don't think he's real wasn't really any different. Those people but he chose. You know our government entirely different route and -- and unfortunately this is the conclusion Obama at this stage at least -- that results from it but. I don't have any athlete in order to calming. Being tempted to the pressures I think it took a lot about you what happens when that determined to do is probably a pain and how you react to it. Home but there just you know Americans don't want to rookies don't have a kangaroo courts and personal vendetta as I'd rather that he not been on the batting order. Directed at us because that's their job pats and and -- that other athletes who were. Currently in the sport. Other coaches who are currently in the sport and we're trying to keep becoming. We're here as an independent agency. Protect the rights of those that wanna do it clean and typically by the rules that are complacent and don't -- subject themselves. I haven't used dangers of performance enhancing drugs just went to want to live a real long spent a quiet and not. One that has took a deep dark secret that -- -- -- to acknowledge. There's Travis tiger -- CEO of you son of the man responsible for a stripping went Armstrong of his seven towards crunch titles his Olympic Medal. How do you respond lynch as he passed. Close to 500 drug test. I -- -- adapt and we've got to do to keep -- that well I'm not sure that does that factor but it. The look at -- today we know athletes in America and to -- this -- -- Ever failed drug test. From. Another there was that -- in on Tour de France samples that were retested the there was the 2001. Are evidence we have that there was so suspicious indicative of the EPO use that didn't go forward. -- and I cannot recoup our current steroid talk -- -- I don't we have evidence of cover up about positive. And -- included the analytical data -- nine and ten. That has been our charge letter clearly indicates problems manipulation not a lot of the apartment and I cooperated corroborated by other evidence we have to. How do you beat a test of Travis with -- -- teammate who came forward what was their system that allowed them to dope and get away with -- We want to lose. -- -- proud moment expect Anderson they include use -- Com expander so they would have noticed. The support they would -- being tested. Hominem may reduce substances that would easily mask -- things that they were doing. But they also reusing things like blood transfusions. And I was does that -- and charges that that we reloaded and our letter. But blood transfusions it was a totally does not -- -- Calm there's good indication that can be drawn from that that I just mentioned if you go to the bottom ten. What data that we have been presented taught to Eminem's face. But I also thought it was this though Travis along the way the -- Ron Howard they cheating along the way Tom you know each stage how many stages. Yeah I mean it out various methods I mean it was it was kind of waiting period using. You know testosterone group -- workers steroids. Arm and so on. To maintain the ability kinda longer. Hours and thus you know. Put on an up and trying to -- recover. Pastor but obviously come game day or -- race day that's gonna give you huge arms and and it enhancing -- but but also the evidence was. Was clear that he would take our -- blood. And restore it. And then during you know -- stages of potato -- for example -- or -- -- is calm. That blood would be brought back the element -- inserted to they would pack of additional red blood -- into their body to give them you know a huge advantage. Com whenever don't into particular stages of a Bears. Races. Do you think most writers used. That time baton might I -- that -- I think the quote I think -- I think not played unlike baseball. Dan in the late nineties and early two thousands. Culture of drug use overtook the rules. And I think a lot like senator Mitchell we got handed a really bad terrible that a facts and then we had an obligation. To to weed through those backs. And and and appropriately and responsibly. But -- -- back together. And come to conclusions and our number one objective and it was. Hope every athlete that we spoke to including point Armstrong. Just do ensure that the doctors. Sports director that is still in the sport are no longer allowed to continue exciting young athletes in grooming young athletes to do what we have seen this US Postal Service teams do and it that this is like you know these New York -- tiring. Territory. I think a lot higher doctors. I don't athlete award went world championships. It and it's the most sophisticated. Program about that we've ever seen all designed to win and haven't gone to ensure that and I never got caught. And we got handed all the facts and we said look our objective about to be. -- -- get rid of that doctors and those in the sports system that the athletes that were there to a certain extent. On the and that's bigger game and so we're you know we're gonna give every athlete including Lance Armstrong. -- to come -- -- be truthful. And and be part of the solution -- -- help young athletes coming into this sport not have to make the choices that. Don't doubt which we're forced to make because the system and the coach are forced to make those decisions. Here's the big question and -- Travis I have I I have to think I think -- cheated OK I said that on the show but I also wonder about beat. -- drug testing of you Sauna. If Lance did pass all of these testing you have tennis but they're sort of body forgot and needed all the time apparently. And was systematic in -- I do have to raise questions about the actual drug testing policy -- have there. But it's gotten to know but I think not perfect and we have a and -- look at -- pit spot are I would I would even have to say that I wish I had a that -- detest you want Iman the predicted here. But you know we're just going -- though Travis that's what I don't understand you know what these guys are taking but the drug test didn't. It didn't show up dirty. There was there's no timeouts and pour blood transfusions. There is -- we know we know they were we know they were doing that we have no test for illegal. Yes absolutely. Did you have bullets and you know there wasn't there's not an effective out there he you can you can mask the use -- BTO. And he can use EPO and small doses and at times. When you think you won't be about it and -- out of your system. But you'll still get the performance in net advantage when -- show up the -- that's a stark reality of the don't protest and unfortunately it very very evident and and it's why it's critically important. -- anti doping agencies and and sport. Authorities that panel these cases to have the ability to bring cases. Based on reliable -- that. And have a independent judges that -- not my decision. That this is on the evidence that was presented but he chose to walk away from had a couple illegal ride that federal judge. Definitely hometown Austin, Texas -- Do you legal deal authority is that you thought process. Provide to you constitutional due process. You can't go there and fight the charges and it and there's a fantasy that they are you'll win. And for some reason and then look at the judge's decision of course -- and data they don't follow their rules are there not provide -- due process the legal process that they're required to come back timing and the correct it. Pretty good go have you used solely and so on on. If you those all Lance Armstrong. Well would there be conversation. But you know they've been good people people have tried to -- not certain span and to me personally. Obviously there was a lot of anger and are -- this statement that was that but hey it's ever been government personal one product out. I was. But you know one of his biggest fans come talk about several years ago I don't know -- also don't don't disappoint us unfortunately out I'm just as disappointed. So all the evidence. Com at ten days here from some sort of have a position that I half but it. On the good -- -- and it's not. You know maybe you. He'd be you have to make a decision justice sometimes make unpopular decisions you have to make decisions that they crushed people to a certain extent because of them. Passion and so emotion we put our sporting heroes but the pats said. The next generation of athletes simple looking to us and and we got an overwhelming number of emails and phone calls. -- supportive athletes' current one retired ones. And young ones coming into all the sports thank you thank you I'm glad that there's an entity that is willing to not let him. Culture. Drug use and the one at all cost. And trampling happening in your competitors right -- Takeover of sport and that and that we have confidence that you're there you're going to be fair and that we can rely on need to keep our our sport to claim. Would he say when you said don't disappoint -- It it was well. Travis I appreciate coming on and know that. Took little bit of work. To get to c'mon what and I know that and you probably and been inundated by a lot of people request but to thank you for the information the backdrop on this is well. I Travis tiger the you -- the CEO of the man who made the decision. To strip Lance Armstrong.