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Jim I believe that you had said that Alex Rodriguez is done do I have that quote right. No I haven't said that -- well actually that I don't know what is it that are right -- we'll go ahead we'll know what you bench and what I wrote was that he is done as far as his reputation he may not be done as a ballplayer. He might even be suspended as far as we know but. In terms of public perception people are never going to look at him the same way they did even after his first admission of steroid use in which he said. He used only in 2001 to 2003. With this report. His credibility is further strained and that's why I wrote what I did. Right there and it did the 2001 to 2003 for people who don't pay attention to the nitty gritty details that happened to be a period when there was no ban on performance enhancing drugs in baseball right so. Presumably such use would have been okay. Right and when he acknowledged that -- in 2009. He definitely used that narrow frame to say this is when I did it and it was before he joined the Yankees. It was before there was testing in baseball all right so Jim what about your thoughts on on Alex Rodriguez. Stand now there's I guess it's not even necessarily clear that he's gonna come back from hip surgery this this time around. That's correct. That Brian Cashman the general manager of the Yankees put out a warning a week or two ago and said he may not even be able to play this year but I agree with -- As far as his reputation he's done. And his reputation was sort of badly hit well with the steroids and that is the admission of that many years ago. Then this year he was relieved of his duties he was taken out of the starting lineup during the playoffs. After you've been taken out he sent a note on a baseball world are on a sheet of paper up into the stands trying to pick up a woman during the middle of the game that antagonize not only his teammates and others in baseball but the defense as well. So I agree with -- it's going to be very difficult for him to have any sort of any credibility at all it even if in fact these turn out not to be true. Just the association and guilt by association and the linkage. And and the damage to that will cause I would -- -- Can we saw on the last hall of fame -- balloting that that nobody and there were a bunch of people on there when you know from the steroids era people like Barry Bonds and who worked. None of them got voted it and it is that is that gonna be the story for the next little while you think. Well as far as Alex is concerned or overall. Well -- I guess I guess Alex and some of these other high profile players who have been you know him at least associated with performance enhancing drugs. Well certainly -- John as the hall of fame vote comes out it's going to be addressed again and the controversy is gonna continue to no matter what happens whether eventually players such as bonds and Clemens are voted in. Or whether they are not just for Alex Rodriguez he is going to face perhaps even a more difficult fight than bonds and Clemens because really right now. His entire career is in question with bonds and Clemens who seems to be in the opinions of some this line of demarcation as to when they started using. Without Rodriguez right now it's hard to know exactly when he was using and if he ever was not.