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Welcome back to caesar's palace welcome back to Las Vegas. We're here for a special edition of connected. The greatest all the greatest a celebration. Of Mohammed Ali his life and his legacy I'm Jason whitlock and earlier today. I got to it down and talk with. Two of the foremost authorities on Mohammad Ali Jerry Eisenberg longtime columnist for the Newark Star Ledger who covered all of Mohammed Ali's career. And doctor Harry Edwards the noted scholar and activists who befriended Mohammed -- support Obama Ali. Knows Mohammed Ali inside and out. Take a look at this interview I think you'll enjoy it. Were in the rain last week here it seems. -- -- Jerry Johnson bird doctor area -- thanks for join me guess the Q you haven't well I wanna start where it. Very because Jerry you were at the media forefront. In defending Mohammad Ali. When he disobeyed his draft orders. When he was a very unpopular figure yourself when you were working for the star ledger bobbled cycles -- for the New York Times. And Howard Cosell the course -- on TV. Is it a coincidence. That three Jewish guys defended the angry Muslim black yet. I think it's and it's you it's an ethical thing obviously but it's more than that. It isn't defending Mohammed Ali who who I loved dearly. Is it. When I was a little kid I used to loosens up and under your quote town meeting of the air veteran people in this country thought. And they were having debates from the congressmen and senators in their -- about 1011 so Alvin Barkley who later -- vice president. Went for -- -- group that he's speaking and he argument the constitution. They're saying it's useless pieces to constitution is not usually. So living document when it is usually the people put it out of dusty -- -- -- and don't make a new constitution that's where now he was all about. It took tremendous. Courage -- Howard Cosell and -- looks like drew to stand up and say right is right. Even if it's may not be the best instructs. To test. Right so I think we we simply have to acknowledge that. Jerry. People today below behind volleys probably the most beloved athlete in the world. Take us back for those two you don't remember how he was despised it was the total opposite of what we see today. He was a devil incarnate. But do you do you think about it as more people Begin to -- to Vietnam War was in my opinion. As more people -- that. Then there one group he became a saint which you believe me we're not used to -- -- I don't know if -- -- the other group he became the devil. Doctor a little. His problem wasn't just with white people know Mohammed Ali during Medicare made black people. Well he did he let me go back a little ways. A lot of people thought it was because he would change his name and affiliated with the muscles but then when he did not step forward. In terms of the draft. A lot of people. Who -- one side of a very controversial and increasingly unpopular war rallied around -- as a hero. He'll embrace that under the rubric. Of conscientious objection and now. He began to have more relevance more resonance -- broader population hole initially. Had really blown tire of the neck so he was already unpopular those who didn't like him at that time and work. And tied. Anti war movement now I don't really hated those who had his guys you know this this this Louisville -- act and Romo. He steps forward and takes a significant status -- equipment let me reevaluate this. That split was not just between black and -- is not it was within black society cause a lot of people saw -- shadows and visions of Jack Johnson somebody who just don't totally anti establishment. And it alienated the very people. Many of whom blacks we're trying to persuade it in a particular direction -- to the civil rights movement. You can see that interview in its entirety of foxsports.com. Up next. Barry Bonds -- me and he'll be joined by Warren Sapp and John -- right here in this -- where -- ball Larry Holmes. I was in love what I'm not lead I mean that's how. I learned to talk smack on -- court is you constantly talk to your opponent that you can't think about playing it.