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Is it a surprise that Wake Forest is three I don't know what ACC play for the first time ever looked outside observers certainly get a hit. Do those inside the weight program this we'll what we'll expect. The win over Florida State Saturday it was typical of this season hardball game that came down up making plays in the fourth quarter. This we'll -- what Wake Forest did not do last year when they lost nine straight. What's the difference bullets start with the quarterback last year Tanner price with the -- -- album gun slinging Texan has grown up. Saturday He was 21 for 35 wood three touchdown. And that things are running the football. Josh Harris had a 136 yards on the ground Saturday against a good civil defense. Did they get beat Venus is making plays and they had four interceptions and a fumble recovery on Saturday. I'm making big plays at the white -- that date. Jim grove admitted Saturday that all of -- games are going to be battles into the fourth quarter. I think the biggest reason for this team -- success at the biggest difference from last season. Is attitude. Wake is a team that hates losing and the players know what that feels like they were close so many times last year only to fall short. There are a number of players who have a different attitude and they admitted. They are willing to play through bumps and bruises they get a little extra effort that may not have been their last year and it is painful and one more. Coach Jim grove is special he's already accomplished things experts said could not be done -- play. I'm telling you that don't be surprised if Jim -- think it's turned out to be something really special this.