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-- get everyone on Bob Marshall with David Hobbs and Steve mansion and our final Formula One Internet roundtable of 2011. But the Brazilian Grand Prix now on the books of victory for Red Bull but not the Sebastien battle that we've come to expect to the top of the podium. It was Mark Webber in a well earned victory even though his teammate did have gearbox problems than that. Well close about signing had to win. When you think about metals and on the podium seventeen times this year -- I made it ten to the coolest blossoms on counts that he did win by him. And the coalition placing him into third and attempted -- out Alonso by one point third. It's him that not by accident that -- who's a bulletin getting that twelve wins in the season for the -- Second and it's in my should not just thirteen minutes -- A little bit disappointed about. But those of us asking me the discipline to see some. No I don't really believe that result left -- Laura Webber was great -- were talking about it when we that's over the broke out. Saying you know from the front row reserve possibly to that we have a good thank -- victory. And it was good to see that but I have to say. Sebastian Vettel finishing second inaugural pretty with 50% of his transmission. And stay on you to stay active. -- come up a bit on how demoralizing for the rest of the failed as -- right right and only Sebastien battle could go driving around and then. Sent an excited radio message to his crew saying hey it is just like seven and I think that you haven't got to have a gearbox they -- is so enjoy -- Of laps coming back again they just exemplifies really what makes Sebastien Vettel a double world champion and I suspect there will be many more to come because you're right. The last race of the season and it could quade used to deny what his level has to stop the dog got out. I got out of -- finished there was no question on lateral there's a 12 finish in the offing but -- He wanted the challenge to bring in the car and I think within his own mind he wanted to do was -- but in 91 bring to become bottom right. Yeah you want and they'll send in ninety when he wanted to -- -- -- -- -- it was good -- have I'll tell you not wearing the -- I don't think past twenty years ago. That is what. Gearbox problems seem to be a constant in this race we saw Lewis Hamilton fallout with the gearbox issue had they just maybe. Pushed their stuff too far this last race now I don't think he's that. The Brazilian track he's one of those circuits that stresses the transmissions of law because of hate that we've just seen on the left on Sandra Lewis substance called -- They use that a lot around here and he's very -- which was vibrations through the transmission system. And the design of the circuit means you're in first different at least twice around here. And it just dressed at times missions along and once these. It's almost seamless transmission starts to -- is very difficult. Really there's no way back because there are sequential mechanism on the monologue donation of box which -- were about in ninety and 91. You have to go through seven -- first -- close -- seven so you have to drive around the problem that they donate spoke to kind of didn't have liked to have Schipperke exhale again you don't miss again. And and this despite the fact that were at altitude so the engines were a little bit down on power. We know -- on Tonioli -- pulled over his HRT late in the race that might have been a gearbox issue as well. Bit strange all around essay and how does transmission problems -- -- and a transmission problems as well. He's got us to -- -- as you know those little -- -- in -- -- bell. We should have very slow corners. And that very bumpy approaches and accelerate money away from them -- which goes always puts a lot of stresses the culture should drive shops. It box. Especially in Yugoslavia say they use seasonal signing is -- to -- -- -- -- about souls. As a middle and make up front that we have more give you issues. Is that and the fact that they have such an array of electrical and hydraulic sense is on the comedy even if the hardware is not packing up like if the ratio is used to work in the select the -- and is looking. If one of the idea sensors around the transmission nobody them. Select a mechanism thinks it's in a position which it isn't because the sensors failing and the electronics give up we see -- -- I was so that sort of with McLaren has problems that with -- most of my senses -- to -- up the system -- so -- that again about a -- Might be fine by the electronics don't wanna play. Surely this will be a season Ferrari will be glad to see in their rearview mirrors remained in the final insult I -- today was. Jenson Button getting by Fernando Alonso knocking him off the podium and thereby. Boosting Webber Upton to third in the drivers' championship. It by just one point to -- -- the -- but to help himself -- policy about winning races getting 25 points but as you say. Alonso -- they went in the look at the beginning of the race so many was dying so much that he hating qualifying. And then Nicholas he had to put them. For some reason or another both the track a little bit off the place early on and Bob said he didn't like them soft doesn't rice it's -- -- looking pretty stout. But as soon as they put those hot tires back on. They were in the same issues that ability when they just don't like those gosh is that on hard times. And it goes Donnie will. -- Friday that see -- back this season simply cannot -- you know many as a hundred points over a hundred points behind Alonso his teammate. He has had that I lacked last year hasn't finished better than fifth -- he would. Hasn't nobody wants hasn't qualified and fifth didn't prevent him from turning some celebratory donuts if mother Brady got us a -- hunt crowd that and it goes it must be so disappointed for him in a three time pulse -- here. And two time winner. You know when he finished like 25 seconds behind the London again today so I think you -- to see and you've -- Hoffman maybe suits his driving style about. As Mark Webber says that's racing sometimes you just. Is raising every time they said to -- -- Graham by the. Good -- -- it. Please don't but he cannot be declining -- heal broken. Some muscle come Melissa lost races and if you want to really rather run a lot of runs with a it's a good job this is in the season well I don't know it just gets crippled get fired for Davis like lieutenant there. When there was there was some hijinks from Michael Schumacher who started this race from the same position he did in 2006 before his. Career into the first thought this was Michael going wheel to -- with a setup of all things Bruno Senna. And actually penalized -- for this how to get -- avoidable accident I don't get it either. See Michael moved out of that to take aligned incentives that 80 since that unfortunate demise that cuts just I arrive at. And damaged center is doing but it was it -- cut -- -- which -- yet Bill Hall. But this time dropping it cemented -- one down -- -- I mean. Caught on they've who's ever erase an incident that was -- handful Dejuan that was a race and as the bad guys and not parading. That racing right out of his summit very. Spots tight corner left weather track drops away there is nothing to help the cost of Saddam might go to. Come on please you know we all racing in Formula One cause there was nobody was to blame for the incident -- -- so the final race of the season decided. The drivers championship and that great midfield battle for seventh in the instructors. As a suburb beats out Toro also for seventh place and the millions of dollars that we like to talk about all the time that go with it. That's a wrap on the season but for one more broadcasts on speed and that will be our final additional Formula One -- looking back not so much on Brazil. As is as we intend to look back on the entire. 2011 Formula One season so join us it will be next Sunday December 4. At noon eastern 9 AM Pacific we hope to see them until that for David Hobbs and Steve matchup on Bob Marcia and we'll see around the web.