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This is really what the Tigers were up against. Only twice in history has a team swept their way into the -- World Series and then potentially either the Tigers could be the third team to be swept out of the World Series and I don't think anybody that's around this team really saw this kind of a series common. I think you're right John I think that when you go back to certainly the way they prepared coming in it felt different than it did six years ago they felt more prepared. When Barry just had a few moments ago. It was as if they had a full spring training day there every day they had as the day off so the other surprising thing is that you tell me John that the Tigers to give up two runs in game two. Two runs in game three. I noticed that the Tigers have a 21 edge going into game four instead they're down 30. All right so is it a matter of the Tigers all fans. Just scuffling mightily. Or is -- a matter of the Giants just out pitching the Tigers who have been pitching pretty well. Yeah I actually asked that question a -- that are and he said -- -- they gets right I think that certainly the case of -- the -- today did a very good job keeping the ball down. And remember these are pitchers that the Tigers really are familiar with what I do think the lay -- went about a little bit of something to do with that the bat speed hasn't quite been there. Well for the it has been missing the pitches to hit. They've had opportunities they did -- thinking too. Not on traveled on the bases only to -- But in game three they had plenty of chances on people cling to this theory that in games like this in series like this the star sort of cancel each other out and it's -- the role players who determine ultimately. A team's success. Tigers are getting much from their stars in the role players are released sliding into those holes either. Great point -- I think on this ever discuss -- Buster Posey isn't exactly having a -- the World Series right now but they've been able to get the Greg or block goes through these animals been great for the but they got a tiger side. This really was the game I think for Miguel Cabrera and prince for there to really exert their influence I think certainly with the with a double play ball the president to their. And then obviously the pop out there for Miguel Cabrera there in the -- in the sixth inning so those are the two most that they were you really want to see your stars come through it was interesting talking to players in the clubhouse John. So -- -- remember the last and it's a Miguel Cabrera breaks his bat and like that's almost like got a a great straighter and just tripping on the on the starting blocks a Miguel Cabrera never never breaks his bat.